Comments on: TBXML released http://www.71squared.com/2009/09/tbxml-released/ iPhone Game Development - Web Development Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:13:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: John http://www.71squared.com/2009/09/tbxml-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1892 John Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:15:27 +0000 http://www.71squared.com/?p=921#comment-1892 Yeah I think the Granny could be a very clever PR stunt! :) Yeah I think the Granny could be a very clever PR stunt! :)

]]> By: anon_anon http://www.71squared.com/2009/09/tbxml-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1891 anon_anon Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:01:22 +0000 http://www.71squared.com/?p=921#comment-1891 How about vtd-xml? You may want to look at that as well? http://vtd-xml.sf.net How about vtd-xml? You may want to look at that as well? http://vtd-xml.sf.net

]]> By: mike http://www.71squared.com/2009/09/tbxml-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1884 mike Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:05:36 +0000 http://www.71squared.com/?p=921#comment-1884 Say no more Greg, I completely understand where you are coming from. I travel a lot through LHR and all sorts of airlines and it is a nightmare. I've cut down a little in that I've started using my Macbook for work as well, so I end up just carrying one laptop around. Workspace is still an issue though. I'm off to Aus on 1st October for two weeks, then Toronto when I get back for a week and then the Nordics, I'm basically in planes and hotels for the whole of October, so I really do know how you feel. As for the Granny I'm not sure. There has been a lot of speculation about it. I have my doubts, but stranger things have happened :o) Mike Say no more Greg, I completely understand where you are coming from. I travel a lot through LHR and all sorts of airlines and it is a nightmare.

I’ve cut down a little in that I’ve started using my Macbook for work as well, so I end up just carrying one laptop around. Workspace is still an issue though.

I’m off to Aus on 1st October for two weeks, then Toronto when I get back for a week and then the Nordics, I’m basically in planes and hotels for the whole of October, so I really do know how you feel.

As for the Granny I’m not sure. There has been a lot of speculation about it. I have my doubts, but stranger things have happened :o)

Mike

]]> By: Gregorski http://www.71squared.com/2009/09/tbxml-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1883 Gregorski Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:02:32 +0000 http://www.71squared.com/?p=921#comment-1883 I'll need to find some time first to actual learn a few bits. I'm getting somewhere slowly with the help from your tutorials, but work travel commitments mean I am suffering from time deprivation. I'm going to start carrying my Macbook with me on my flights, but the thought of lugging 2 laptops through LHR isn't a nice one :), and BA aren't massively generous with their onboard workspace :( Thanks for the help though. By the way, is that Czech Granny for real ? I’ll need to find some time first to actual learn a few bits. I’m getting somewhere slowly with the help from your tutorials, but work travel commitments mean I am suffering from time deprivation. I’m going to start carrying my Macbook with me on my flights, but the thought of lugging 2 laptops through LHR isn’t a nice one :), and BA aren’t massively generous with their onboard workspace :(

Thanks for the help though.

By the way, is that Czech Granny for real ?

]]> By: mike http://www.71squared.com/2009/09/tbxml-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1881 mike Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:53:00 +0000 http://www.71squared.com/?p=921#comment-1881 Hi Greg Your right, reducing the XML down to maybe a comma delimited file would be very quick although as you say, not as easy to read. The reason I've stuck with XML is that with TBXML I'm now able to parse the XML so quickly I'm not seeing the need to move to a flat file. Also, tools such as Tiled allow you to add properties to things like maps, layers and object groups. Whilst handling this is possible in a pre-process stage before it hits the project, it is more work. I completely agree about the bloat that XML can bring with it, but now that I can get Tiled to gzip its contents I end up with a very very small file that I can parse quickly and still benefit from being able to traverse the XML document when parsing in complex structure such as object groups etc. I was definitely moving toward some kind of pre-processed file when I had load times of 20 seconds. With 600ms its quick enough for me not to worry. If you do any tests between the two I would be really interested to see the results :o) Mike Hi Greg

Your right, reducing the XML down to maybe a comma delimited file would be very quick although as you say, not as easy to read.

The reason I’ve stuck with XML is that with TBXML I’m now able to parse the XML so quickly I’m not seeing the need to move to a flat file. Also, tools such as Tiled allow you to add properties to things like maps, layers and object groups. Whilst handling this is possible in a pre-process stage before it hits the project, it is more work.

I completely agree about the bloat that XML can bring with it, but now that I can get Tiled to gzip its contents I end up with a very very small file that I can parse quickly and still benefit from being able to traverse the XML document when parsing in complex structure such as object groups etc.

I was definitely moving toward some kind of pre-processed file when I had load times of 20 seconds. With 600ms its quick enough for me not to worry.

If you do any tests between the two I would be really interested to see the results :o)

Mike

]]> By: Gregorski http://www.71squared.com/2009/09/tbxml-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1880 Gregorski Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:46:54 +0000 http://www.71squared.com/?p=921#comment-1880 Just to clarify, i mean't transform it BEFORE adding it to your XCode projcet. Just to clarify, i mean’t transform it BEFORE adding it to your XCode projcet.

]]> By: Gregorski http://www.71squared.com/2009/09/tbxml-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1879 Gregorski Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:46:08 +0000 http://www.71squared.com/?p=921#comment-1879 Mike, have you considered that XML might be overkill for this and it would probably be much faster to transform the XML into a really simple CSV file and parse it manually ? Sure it's not as elegant, but on a small device like this I would have though performance is much more important. My experience from my work is that XML generally is a great format, but flawed by the bloat it creates for large documents, and the signification overhead involved in parsing it. I haven't looked, but I'm sure Cocoa has an API to break a CSV line into its constituent components. I'd be interested in a comparison and in fact when i get around to actually doing some work on the iPhone i will probably do one for my own interest. Regards, Greg Mike, have you considered that XML might be overkill for this and it would probably be much faster to transform the XML into a really simple CSV file and parse it manually ?

Sure it’s not as elegant, but on a small device like this I would have though performance is much more important. My experience from my work is that XML generally is a great format, but flawed by the bloat it creates for large documents, and the signification overhead involved in parsing it.

I haven’t looked, but I’m sure Cocoa has an API to break a CSV line into its constituent components. I’d be interested in a comparison and in fact when i get around to actually doing some work on the iPhone i will probably do one for my own interest.

Regards,
Greg

]]> By: Library: TBXML at Under The Bridge http://www.71squared.com/2009/09/tbxml-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1878 Library: TBXML at Under The Bridge Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:54:42 +0000 http://www.71squared.com/?p=921#comment-1878 [...] Well, that suits a good number of applications. As discussed on 71^2 here: [...] [...] Well, that suits a good number of applications. As discussed on 71^2 here: [...]

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